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Wake up Federer; hire a coach

Posted: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:18 PM

Does Roger Federer need a coach?

 

The answer to that could be unanimous as long as Federer himself isn’t included in the polling.

 

After this year’s Australian Open final, where Federer fell in five sets to Rafael Nadal, sage tennis minds from Patrick McEnroe to Darren Cahill suggested Federer needed a voice to offer him advice, and occasional healthy dissent.

 

Then it became known that Cahill rendezvoused with Federer in Dubai. Word leaked of a coaching arrangement only to be countered by an announcement that Cahill was unwilling to “travel” the tour, and leave his school-aged children.

 

So still no coach for Federer, who lost to Andy Murray over the weekend in the Indian Wells semifinals. Murray has beaten Federer four consecutive times, and his career mark against the Swiss is 6-2.

 

I think the question really is: Does Roger Federer WANT a coach?

After all, Federer can have whatever he wants. Money is no object. He has leaned on a select few confidantes -- longtime amour Mirka Vavrinec, Swiss friend Rene Staubli, and current Swiss Davis Cup captain Severin Luhti. IMG mega agent Tony Godsick has Federer’s ear for business matters. That’s the group, and I sense Federer likes the control he maintains over it.

 

I also sense Federer loves playing the throwback role -- being a true independent in the era of entourages. As classy a champion as Federer has been, that trait does not exclude ego, and it appears Federer likes receiving the credit, and not sharing it with a coach.

A conversation at Wimbledon rings my memory bank. It was the year after Federer’s second Wimbledon title, and he and I spoke outside the NBC offices. I asked him about the previous year’s final, in which he utilized a rain delay to turn around and win a tough match with Andy Roddick. It began Federer’s dominance of the All-England Club and of Roddick as well.

 

The point is that Federer relished the fact that it was he who employed a tactical change, blocking back Roddick’s cannonading serves, to effect a change in outcome. And further it was Roddick who had THE coach, Brad Gilbert, in his corner. Federer enjoyed the fact that HE outsmarted both Roddick and Gilbert.

 

It is clear that Rafael Nadal, who won at Indian Wells, now owns the tennis world. The match of Nadal’s forehand to Federer’s backhand is an exchange that Federer cannot win. Nadal wins these stroke exchanges on clay by a huge margin, and on other surfaces they are at best even.

Murray has confidence against Federer, and Nadal beats him regularly. The aura of invincibility that cloaked Federer for five years is rapidly eroding.

 

Could a coach change that? Maybe. It seems Federer still hasn’t fully accepted the concept. But with each loss -- and Federer only plays the big events these days -- the window narrows on his catching and passing Pete Sampras for most Grand Slam titles in a career. And that should increase the focus Federer needs to apply to the coaching question.

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Completely agree, if he's determined to get back to #1, he has to make some changes starting with a fresh look at his game and tactics.  He has plenty of money.  He's a great and classy champion, and a wonderful face for the game, but I'm afraid without some major changes to his game and strategy, he may not win another major.  Murray and Nadal are approaching their prime, Roger's best days may be behind him.
No coach can help Federer now, even if he had five of them he still would not be able to beat Nadal on clay at the French Open. He is simply not good enough.
The big problem is that Nadal has a game that is tailor made to beat Federer. A coach can't change that.

Has Federer lost a quarter step? He doesn't cover the running forehand in the corner quite like he used to. The two handed backhand down the line now causes big problems (Murray, Novak J.). Federer can't overprotect the backhand corner like he used to against those guys (before it was Nalbandian that cause that problem). A coach can't change that either.

The big problem is that Federer won't admit to himself that things have changed and so he continues the same thing that worked so well before.

Step one is to face reality. Step two is to make the necessary changes, whether it be a new coach or to change his paterns of play, etc.

Still, he can continue two or three more years like this and be top five. But will he beat Pete's record?
I have always been a big fan of Federer's. His combination of elegance, shotmaking skills and strategic abilities made him a true great. Not on his current form, however. I can't comment on his mental state, if he actually feels himself crumbling when the matches get close against opponents like Nadal and Murray. Only Federer knows the extent of his mental frailty. However, I can comment on what I see in his physical play. The miles of print about him can be summarized as follows: if Roger Federer does not develop his backhand side to the point that it is as offensive, penetrating and dangerous as his forehand side, he will UNQUESTIONABLY never regain the #1 position or win another Major title. His backhand is weak, inconsistent and vulnerable. This was not always so. I have watched tapes of him on the clay in Rome and Hamburg against Nadal where each and every backhand he played 2 or 3 years ago was an offensive, topspin return. Now, he relies on a chip slice or a floating slice off the backhand side and he is put into a defensive mode immediately. He needs to address and correct this or his slide will continue.
Rafael Nadal is real gentleman and the best and most exciting player. Roger Federer is an overconfident spoiled brat who is passed his prime. He never gives his opponents credit for beating him. He only offers an explanation that he just didn't play his best tennis.
Rafael Nadal is real gentleman and the best and most exciting player. Roger Federer is an overconfident spoiled brat who is passed his prime. He never gives his opponents credit for beating him. He only offers an explanation that he just didn't play his best tennis.
Wow, Mr Robinson, you sure have uncloaked the inadequacies of this feeble player who is the solid number 2 atp and a measly 13 grand slams to his name. Maybe Federer should just retire and marry Mirka and enjoy fatherhood to make room for the ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN guys who are chasing him down =) I mean, how could he stomach another paltry year like last year? All those other players who won the U S OPEN and finished NUMBER TWO must find him a laughingstock!  I better go to bed before I lapse into sarcasm...
Federer needs to do something. Watching him fall apart in the 5th set of the Australian to Nadal was proof enough, then getting schooled by Murray in Indian Wells should hammer it home. I have been a huge Federer fan for many years, but he currently doesn't have the mindset or the skill set to beat Nadal, and only beats Murray on occasion. He needs a coach. If he doesn't, he will be crying at more trophy presentations in the future...
I think that it all boils down to the fact that Federer is TOO DAMN PROUD to admit he needs help in order to get him back as being the champion of events.  
I also think Federer needs some coaching in PR.  The guy says the STUPIDEST things in interviews regarding opponents that he KNOWS he has trouble against.  If he's such a classy champion, he should learn to speak with more humility and honesty.
I think that the baby had a lot to do with not going with Cahill.  There is no sense in bringing in a coach when you life is about to go through such a huge change.   I'm sure it will bring much happiness, but now is not the time to bring in a new person.  Once the kid arrives his schedule is going to be diffiuclt.  I don't care about Tiger and fatherhood.  Tennis is a physically demanding 11 month sport if you don't tank out of the clay season.  It's a shame tennis wise, because I think the baby means his chances at raising his level are zip.  He needed the coach last year.  It's too late for him.
I don't believe that hiring a coach will make the difference. Andy Roddick has had numerous coaches and has failed to win another Grand Slam event. He has the talent to be a top ten player with or without a coach. Roger is simply better than that but no longer number one. What has always worked is ineffective against Nadal and the eveidence increases that its also ineffective against Murray. However Roger is confident (as I am) that he can routinely still reach the semi-finals and finals in major tournament. Once there he can defeat both of these players with his best tennis. That tennis is becoming more elusive, but its still there. He doesn't believe (and I agree) that a coach is what brings out that tennis at those moments.
Federer is only playing a limited amount of tournaments in his quest to win more grand slams.  Right now he is in actuality 3rd best in the world and the others are biting away to pass him.  Given his age his window of opportunity is shrinking and a coach is the answer to help him turn the corner.
Maybe Federer needs to start wearing specs and/or exchange his 90 sq inch racket for a bigger racket head surface.  It seems like he can no longer go the distance in an extended rally.  Additionally, there is something going on with his "crunch-time" confidence level:  it goes down rather than up against the "new" players who have got his "number".
I think the one significant factor if Federer's fall, that is overlooked by himself, is his ability to adapt to what shot is required to win a point. Before Nadal, and Murray, and Roddick's serve, there was nothing that an opponent could throw Federer that he did not know what to do with.  Nadal answers many shots with topspins down the middle.  Well, Federer loathes those shots. Rightfully so, they do nothing in moving the opponent, clearing openings in the court, or in short, shortening the point.  This is the coaching he needs.  Physically he can "still" play.  But now there are answers to players like him who are aggressive to every submissive shot.  Defensive tennis is agressive on one way and one way only, they force the opponent to play another shot. Usually Federer forces anyonw to hit a winner against him!  Ted Robinson, yes he needs a coach! ME! LOL
No Roger! You don't need a stinking coach.

BFF,
Rafa
Let me take care of it right now. Roger--get your darn first serve to start going in again, and cut down those unforced errors. Good luck and I accept cash, major credit cards or PayPal. Just don't make me live in Dubai.
well written, i could not agree more.
Federer may genuinely need a coach... but would he be able to utilize that resource at this stage in his career?  Many of his patterns (strategically speaking) are 'set'.  And after all of his past sucesses I don't think he's going to truly be able to let go and allow someone to start tinkering.  He is after all (as Rafa has routinely shown), human like the rest of us.
Why does he need a coach, they only get rid of them as soon as they win or lose (more likely).  Federer is just going thru a rough patch and will be back in top form.
He's arrogant and now he's toast.  Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
no coach could ever help Fed, his level of hubris would never allow anything to "interfere" with his take on the world and the universe; he is in his eyes the greatest ever and he is in denial about the years 04-07 when there was no real competition . here comes Nadal, Murray, even Simon etc and Fed is a mere mortal. I really hope he will retire soon because his shanking tennis is no longer easy to watch....I am looking forward to Nadal,Murray,Tsonga,Djoky,Simon and quite a few more to entertain us with nice tennis without bad-mouthing fellow players a la Federica...
Like every chamnpion, Roger is full of confidence (which is a good thing). Unfortunately, his confidence turns into stuborness and that looks like it'll be his downfall. He will not accept the fact that he has to make changes and improve his game to get back on top.  I have grown furstated watching him lose to Nadal over and over and he WON'T make a single change. Same story - Nadal attacks his backhand and when the pressure is on, he folds. Crazy!  Remember how McEnroe used to change his game to beat Borg?  Roger's game hasn't changed in years...  How sad if he doesn't win another slam and ends this close to the record...
Roger needs to improve his fitness. He should spend more time in the gym. He's physically outclassed by the latest group of ascendant players.  He should cut his hair so that it isn't such a distraction on court.
I for one am thrilled that RoboFed, the world's most boring player, is finally on his way out. After years of dominating in one of the weakest eras ever known in tennis I feel that I can finally watch tennis and enjoy it more now that talented and charismatic players like Rafael Nadal and Andrew Murray are playing and putting RoboFed in his rightful place. Thank you, Rafa!
Federer is a stubborn cry baby. Did you see him crying at the Australian Open?

The addition of a coach can't help him, what he needs is extreme weight lifting sessions to build him up like Nadal. With his increasing age, he needs to add more power to his game.

I agree with (corneliu from mesa az) that he only seemed dominant in the years before because the competition (Nadal, Murrya) were still wearing diapers and Agassi was virtually a grandfather.
Every great sportsman's time comes up eventually.  Federer had a great run, not that it is over quite yet, but certainly the peak is well and truly in the past. Great for tennis really!  New blood always makes the sport more entertaining.  The fact that tennis fans - and for that matter, Federer-fans - have such a hard time "letting go" speaks volumes for what this man/champion/ambassador has done for his sport.  The fact that (potentially) Federer may not supplant Sampras as the all-time winningest grand slam champion of tennis just proves then how incredible a career and achievement Sampras enjoyed.  How heartbreaking it must have been for Sampras' fans to witness during those final few years of struggle before he lifted the U.S. Open (and his final) trophy in 2002? So, too, this drought is wrenching on the hearts of Fed Fans. But sport will live on! And no doubt the Magician has a few tricks left.  Spoiled with an unrivaled rate of trophies collected, we are forced to enjoy a win when it comes. Just one win, Federer! And then maybe another one :-)
Federer is astrologically a LEO.  Leos are arrogant, hate being upstaged and do not admit the possibilities of making mistakes.  

Federer will never make the mental adjustment.  He's too stubborn.  He reminds me of several people including my two siblings.  Federer's pride will be his downfall.
Even Tiger Woods had a coach in his father, Earl.  Granted, it was a special connection, but given Roger and Tiger's friendship, this could provide some kind of rationale/foundation for Federer to accept the notion of a coach/confidante in his professional life.
Rory, did you even watch the latest Aussie final?  Federer came over almost every single backhand, and with authority.  It was anything but weak.  Beating Nadal is nowhere near as simple as improving his backhand.
Was that really Andre Agassi that posted the comment that said,

"Rafael Nadal is real gentleman and the best and most exciting player. Roger Federer is an overconfident spoiled brat who is passed his prime. He never gives his opponents credit for beating him. He only offers an explanation that he just didn't play his best tennis.  --------Andre Agassi (Sent Monday, March 23, 2009 7:10 PM)
Yes, Federer reeks of arrogance and self importance.
Coach or no coach, I'm glad that he is losing to Nadal and Murray at this consistent rate.
He should be coached to be humble and classy first!!!!
Roger Federer will be 28 years old this August and even at nearly 28, he is still a great chamption. Is he losing his edge to younger players? Perhaps. But, let's look at his stats compared, let's say, to Sampras.  Pete Sampras was 31 when he beat Andre Agassi (32 years old)at the U.S. Open in 2002. Sampras was a runner up in four slam events losing to four different players - Agassi, Hewitt, Edberg and Safin and all were on hard courts, Sampras' specialty. However, if you look at Federer's Grand Slam runner up statistics, Rafael Nadal, a younger and incredibly fit player, was the only player that could beat him in ALL FIVE SLAM EVENTS. Is he losing his edge to these younger players? Maybe. Would a coach change things around? In my opinion, probably not.
I've always been a Federer fan. However, I've noted that he often relaxes for just a few points. Remember his semi final loss to Safin couple of years ago? In the past he was able to overpower the opponents even with such lapses of concentration, but now Nadal, Murray, Djokovic and others have closed in while he's not grown younger. Maybe a good coach can make the difference, but Federer has to listen to him. Will he?
Definitely Fedex needs a major change if he wanna beat Nadal just on hard court. On clay he's unluckily unable to even have a chance.
Federer is a true world class champion and he had shown that dominance in last 4-5 years. Now if you call that as weakest tennis period, then it is the class of Federer game which made other players look like that.

But i agree that federer need to change as he is going to play against 4-5 years younger players and he need to be more agressive. He is the one player who has taken tennis to a new level completely and now he has to fight hard to keep his game at that level.
the problem is that Roger now has fear..it permeates his game like a stench that won't go away...
roger federer is the greatest tennis player of all time. It hurts when he loses to nadal and murray, and should use this as inspiration to improve, get fitter, stronger and as far as psyvhology goes, he would not have been world number 1 for over 200 weeks unless he was mentally strong. he needs a coach, pete sampras in my opinion
Roger Federer is the best player that has ever played the game.  It's all mental at this point.  He needs to get one big win against Nadal in a big stage event, and then he'll be able to turn things around the second half of his career.  His style and fluidity will more than likely allow him to last longer in the game than Nadal.  It's fascinating to me that people have written him off.  He's a true champion and is one of the smartest players of all time...
Federer may be going the way of Borg, and McEnroe and to some extent Sampras.   Borg and McEnroe retired at 27 after not winning Slams unwilling to make adjustments to their games or training and happy with their previous accomplishments.  Sampras hung on for a few more years and had one miraculous 2002 Open win after many mediocre years without a Slam.

Fed may retire this year or next if no Slam comes.  He will get married and play with his kid and may come out after a year or so.
Great comments by great tennis fans! - including Agassi and Hulk!  Roger was practically unbeatable when Tony Roche was his coach.  But he has remained at that level while Nadal, Murray and Djokvich have stepped up to a higher level.   If Roger would put away his ego and hire a coach of the calibre of Tony Roche, he could at least be even with those three.  Best of luck, Roger!
I have been a great fan of Roger since the last 5 years. He still has a lot of tennis left in him.Now is the time  to hire a coach not only for his game but his mrntal attitude. The younger players are inchin closer to him and he needs a coach to handle these younsters. I pray Roger gets back to his winning ways very very soon.
I'm a big Federer fan and life long tennis player. He hasn't been the same player since after his mono. He should have taken more time off to get stronger mentally and physically. He's still playing catch-up if you will. He needs to hit the gym and get more upper body strength. And improve the consistency in his first serve and in his backhand, but specifically his backhand down the line. He almost never hits that shot now, and it's because he doesn't have confidence in it. Players see this so they feel they don't have to defend that side of the court as much and can cheat just enough to that they can more easily cover the other side. Of course, that makes Federer's job even more difficult. He needs to keep his opponents honest had make them defend that down the line backhand drive. Not a down the line slice or overly topspin shot, but a more aggressive drive. Granted, it's more risky, but he needs that shot. He used to hit it a lot more often before. I've heard he hates to practice/drill and only uses hitting partners. Well, that's not enough to keep your game sharp or to improve areas of your game. Practice the serve and backhand, hit the gym, and the confidence will come roaring back.
He really needs a coach.As from what he said"he has five coaches in two years"maybe that's the problem.Different coaches has different answer to every different problem or details.If he really is trying to get back to his form,it's not physcially but mentally.LOOK at the his game at miami.It was like he thought he had won the game
The reason(s) that Roger needs a coach are clear.

1. a confidence builder.  RF can beat Nadal on Clay, though his chances are becoming less likely.  His problem is he is content with trying to grind with Rafa and RF is insistant on trying to be Nadal from the baseline.... not going to happen.  A good coach would help him with a game plan to beat RN... Will he listen...

2. A good coach can help RF's mental state.  RN is inside of fed's head.  It is starting to get to Federer's overall game.  He knows that he could have won wimbledon, but he chocked .... BIG TIME!  A good coach will help to correct the slump and this defeated attitude that Fed now projects.

My opinion
I hope Roger Federer hires a full time coach and sticks with him.  He really needs a full time coach to help him with his game, wish he would stop being stubborn.  
i guess he's looking for a coach who will say things he wants to hear. that's the epitome of ego and pride. life is always evolving, fluid, so we have to constantly adjust and adapt. when one believes he's learned everything  there is to learn, then he hasn't learned anything.
I haven't read all of them, but I don't agree that Federer is incapable of beating Nadal, even on clay. I think the issue is actually fairly simple: Federer is not going to beat Nadal from the backcourt. Noone can slug it out with that guy, even Federer, especially on clay. So Federer has to get into the net. The issue is that he tends to hit topspin approach shots (counter to basic tennis theory you can find in virtually any good book; Tony Roche, the owner of one of the most evil sliced backhand approaches the game has ever seen, but have had fits watching Federer do this) which sit up on clay, right in Nadal's wheelhouse. So Federer arrives at the net just in time to watch the ball whistle by. He needs heavy slice on the approach shots from both sides, and he should mostly hit them down the line, mixing it up with attempts at outright cross-court winners. John McEnroe could teach him to do this, as could Sampras (if he were willing to help Federer break his record).

The only fly in this ointment is Federer's confidence, which appears to be very shaky. He just doesn't seem to have the mental strength to stay with a killer like Nadal (witness his disappearing act in the 5th set in Australia). If he's got the tennis equivalent of the yips, then forget everything I said above about sliced approaces. Won't work.
It is silly to echo Sampras' sour grapes- claiming Federer dominated a 'weak field.' Sampras also faced aging greats Chang, Courier and Agassi in & out. Also, Sampras never reached a French Open final.
The question is not whether Federer is the most complete player ever (for sure) but why he is floundering so terribly now. His emotionality - contained by his success- has erupted, upsetting those snide macho-wannabees who think Real Men Don't Cry. Perhaps his excellence cannot withstand a dip in confidence & speed. Let us await the 4th year of Nadal's era...watch his hypermuscular game unravel with injuries & age.
Federer does need a coach and a new attitude & strategy. Annacone ?

Here's a comparison that I think is similar.  Remember Emmitt Smith of the Dallas Cowboys?  In the latter stages of his career, it was sad to watch as he declined each year.  He made a gallant stand, but it was just too late.  I don't even think his conditioning helped.  It was just past time for him.  Now, go back and look at Roger in earlier years.  Everything was so easy.  He just glided to victory.  Now he has trouble even winning a point against lesser opponents.  It happens to everybody in sports.  Time and age is your enemy.  
Federer's slump has little to do with mono and a whole lot to do with Nadal.  His slide began with his 2005 loss to Nadal in Rome.  That was the point in time where Federer lost his mental edge over Nadal.  He never regained the mental edge after that match.  

The mono stuff is bogus.  Sampras won his 14th major at the age of 31 with Thalassemia Minor.  If I hear anymore excuses for Federer, I think I'll end up as the one who's ill.


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