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Who deserves the Hall in 2009?

Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:11 PM

There are 23 candidates on this year’s Hall of Fame ballot with the election results to be announced on Monday. In my previous blog, I wrote on the top three returning vote-getters from last year: Jim Rice (72.2 percent), Andre Dawson (65.9) and Bert Blyleven (61.9) and whether I thought they deserve to get the 75 percent of the vote needed to be inducted.

 

Understand that every candidate has friends and former teammates, managers and coaches who will vouch for his brilliance. The mission of the voters is to place the praise alongside the numbers and the visceral reaction to a player's career.

 

The late Leonard Koppett -- one of the great gems of the sports writing profession -- always talked of his litmus test for Cooperstown. If Koppett had to pause and think about a player's worthiness, then he was not a Hall of Famer.

 

With that in mind some thoughts on this year’s candidates:

 

HAROLD BAINES: He had only one league leading total in his long career: slugging percentage in 1984. Baines is a perfect example of quantity with not enough quality for the Hall of Fame. Or as a fine major leaguer once told me, "I was a very good player and the Hall of Fame is for great players."

 

JAY BELL: He is remembered for one exceptional year, 1999 with Arizona (.289 BA, 38 HR, 112 RBI). Should he be honored for his durability, eight years of 150-plus games and another of 149 at the demanding shortstop position? Not a realistic Hall of Fame candidate.

 

DAVID CONE: His credentials look better upon closer examination: two 20-win seasons, a Cy Young Award and four top five finishes in the Cy Young voting, a strong ERA differential (3.46 career to 4.17 league ERA) and the standout accomplishment in winning 45.6 percent of his career starts. But he didn't reach the 200-win plateau that has become the bare minimum for Hall of Fame consideration. And even reaching that didn't help Orel Hershiser.

 

RON GANT: He should have been a 300/300 man but while he did hit 321 home runs, his career ended with 243 stolen bases. A dirt bike accident before the start of the 1994 season kept him from ever again reaching the level of play of earlier in his career.  A good player but his career totals of 1,651 hits and 1,411 strikeouts are way too close to help his candidacy.

 

MARK GRACE: His biggest sales point: he had the most hits in the 1990s. And that means more than many give him credit for. A lifetime .300 hitter with modest power and four Gold Gloves, Grace would seem to fall into the category, "If not Keith Hernandez, then why him?"

 

RICKEY HENDERSON: The greatest leadoff hitter of all time. I love Jimmy Rollins’ take on Henderson. Growing up in Oakland, Rollins idolized Henderson and long heard the tales of Henderson never working out with weights. Pushups and situps, just like Herschel Walker, said Henderson.

In 2001, Henderson was with the Padres and a young Rollins went to the weight room on a Phillies visit to San Diego. Henderson was there and Rollins decided to introduce himself -- only Henderson was in the middle of a serious set of bicep curls!

 

TOMMY JOHN: He compares more favorably to his peers also seeking the Hall of Fame (Bert Blyleven, Jim Kaat and Jack Morris) than I would have imagined. What likely hurts John is only winning 40.5 percent of his career starts.

 

DON MATTINGLY: This cuts to the Jim Rice question. Was he dominant enough to overcome the longevity question? Mattingly has fewer top 10 finishes in every category than has Rice. If Gold Gloves matter, then why isn’t Keith Hernandez in the Hall of Fame? For five years Mattingly was a supreme player but that’s not probably not long enough to make it to Cooperstown.

 

MARK MCGWIRE: As has been written in this blog before, judge a man against his peers. On that basis alone, McGwire is yes, yes, a thousand times yes for the Hall of Fame.

 

JACK MORRIS: Like McGwire, a thousand times yes. I have previously pointed out how favorably Morris measures up against the 280-win club. At some point, despite the efforts of some in the stat fraternity, wins do matter. And Morris won an astounding 47.6 percent of his career starts. As a comparison Randy Johnson has won 50.3 percent, Roger Clemens won 50 percent and Greg Maddux won 47.9 percent. So Morris is in good company.

 

DALE MURPHY: A candidacy like Mattingly’s except Murphy had a slightly longer career. He had a five-year period of brilliance and some surrounding years that were good. He’s probably in the Baines category -- very good but not great.

 

JESSE OROSCO: No chance. He simply wasn't a closer long enough. If Lee Smith can't get a sniff, we will never see a set-up man or situational reliever come close to making it to Cooperstown.

 

DAVE PARKER: I made a strong case on his behalf last year. He truly benefits from a closer look. Parker has more quality than you think and more longevity than you might remember (2,712 hits). If Dawson gets elected, then Parker should be next.

 

DAN PLESAC: See Orosco.

 

TIM RAINES: Probably the most controversial omission for many who analyze numbers. The quality is there, particularly in comparison to Lou Brock, although they were a generation apart. But Raines didn't quite reach Brock's career totals, falling 400 hits and 100 stolen bases shy of them. Although Raines was a different type of player, I wonder if he is caught in the logjam behind Dawson and Rice.

 

LEE SMITH: Frequent readers of this blog know how strongly I feel about the disrespecting of relievers. The election of Goose Gossage righted what I felt was the Hall of Fame’s most egregious omission. Now Smith is the standard bearer for closers seeking Cooperstown. How, for example, can Trevor Hoffman feel about his chances at the Hall of Fame if Smith can't make in? Smith is the closers' version of Robin Yount – he had a long, steady and generally unspectacular career. But he did make seven All Star teams and had four top 10 Cy Young Award finishes. On the Koppett meter, I say no as Smith never struck me as a dominant closer. But his performance, both in excellence and longevity, warrants a closer look over time.

 

ALAN TRAMMELL: A terrific shortstop whose candidacy suffers from the change in his position over the last half of his career. Ripken, Alex Rodriguez, Nomar Garciaparra and Derek Jeter introduced offense, notably power, to a shortstop – a position where offense had rarely been found. I think Trammell will receive a fairer look from the Veteran’s Committee down the line than from writers who have been mesmerized by the power era. And some make an equally strong case for his partner, Lou Whitaker.

 

GREG VAUGHN/MO VAUGHN: They’re not related but they have similar tales. Flashes of dominance, awesome power but neither sustained their runs long enough for the Hall of Fame. Neither man reached 2,000 hits or 400 homers.

 

MATT WILLIAMS: I covered closely two third basemen that fit in the Baines category -- Williams and Gary Gaetti. Both were incredible competitors who honored the game in the manner in which they played. Both had power, Williams superior there as he finished the 1994 season with 43 homers in 112 games. Both were Gold Glovers. Gaetti in his prime had the better arm. Both fall tantalizingly close of this honor -- in the case of Williams, his career effectively ended at 35, denying him the chance to put up better career totals. But Williams was a winner, proven in his three stops (San Francisco, Cleveland and Arizona). He went to the World Series with all three teams. And no player was ever more respected by his teammates.

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Oldtimer Bobby Veach of the Tigers.
If Blyleven, Morris, Trammell, Smith had played in New York or L.A. they would have been in the Hall a long time ago.  They not only have the numbers but were consistent year in and year out.  Morris especially.  He pitched and won a World Series for 3 different teams, and pitched one of the greatest W.S. games in history.  Won the most games in the 80's of any pitcher, and threw a no hitter.  The main reason why many writers don't vote for him is because he only had one 20 win season.
If Rickey is not a first ballot hall of famer, than nobody should be.  Jim Rice may get the extra votes he needs to make the 75%, but those would be the only two I see going in this year.
"Ripken, Alex Rodriguez, Nomar Garciaparra and Derek Jeter introduced offense". Really? You might want to look up a shortstop named Barry Larkin's numbers. He also would have had about 10 more gold gloves if not for the Wizard of OZ, who is undoubtably the greatest defensive player in the history of baseball. Larkin changed how others played shortstop. A 300+ hitter with power and speed, not to mention an MVP and a World Series.
I agree Mark Grace to HOF, they left out (again), Ron Santo, he's got what needs to be considered, yet since Cubs have not Won World Series, Ron Santo gets a No, (again), then (again), Mark Grace played for the Cubs, before he Won a World Series Title, so did Andre Dawson.
Where is Tony Olivia??? Come on this guy was better than a lot of the ones went in in last 5 years. I have no faith in these voters.. how you leave Bert B. .off this long, this shows the voters are in there own little world, the same ones yet that left Roger Maris off to this day, that is nothing more that disgusting. .. professionl voters, ya right.
I think these are all good choices but why has the support for Dale Murphy not there.
He appeared in the All-Star Game seven times, and leading the National League in home runs and RBI twice; he also led the major leagues in home runs and runs batted in over the 10-year span from 1981 to 1990. He led the National League in games, at bats, runs, hits, extra base hits, RBI, runs created, total bases, and plate appearances in the 1980s. He also accomplished a 30-30 season in 1983, at the time only the 6th player since 1922 to do so. His 1983 MVP year is the only time in major-league history a player has compiled a .300 batting average, 30 home runs, 120 runs batted in, 130 runs scored, 90 bases on balls, and 30 stolen bases - with fewer than 10 times caught stealing.
In addition, Murphy also won five consecutive Gold Glove Awards, and won two consecutive MVP awards in 1982 and 1983, making him one of only four outfielders in major league history with consecutive MVP years, and the youngest ever to do so at the time. Also, between 1981 and 1986, Murphy played in 740 consecutive games, at the time the 11th longest such streak in baseball history.  
Harold Baines really was a great ball player but Murphy has back-to back MVP's.  
The greatest shortstop of his era and an underappreciated member of one of the greatest teams of all time...David Concepcion.
Cubs fans - you all know who belongs.  Dawson & Santo.  I'm not convinced Gracie belongs, but always one of my favorites!  
I want to know the names of the BBWAA voters who didn't vote for Rickey...ABSURD! They should not be allowed to vote again EVER! I know the reason why BB is not in, it is because most of the voters never saw him play! He should have been in a long time ago. Same with Oliva and Hodges. Thanks!  
the only question I have is Joe Morgan and Don Suton are in the HOF and they weren't dominate if Jack Morris and Tommy John and Bert Blyeleven along with Dave Parker and Steve Garvey can't get in then the above two shouldn't be their also
How Andre Dawson doesn't get in is beyond me. Look at his numbers compared with Tony Perez's. They are equal to or better in every category, including 1 MVP. The only category Perez has him in is World Series rings, which is a team accomplishment. The Hall voters are a joke! How does Rickey henderson not get a unanamous selection. I would like to hear from the writers who didn't vote him in and laugh (I mean listen) to there explanation. I could go on and on about the lunacy of the writers i.e Blyleven etc.
the hall voting leaves alot to be desired. the only criteria that should matter is how the player compares to those of his generation. trammel should be in as should blyleven. look back at players like oliva and pinson. great players in thier era who nobody remembers. smith should also be in. you cannot compare a players stats top those of a different era. it makes no sense.
Blog is "Who deserves to be in the Hall in 2009".  None other than Pete Rose.  He put up all of his hall of fame numbers during his active playing days.  What he did after his playing days is a completely different set of criteria.  Pete Rose is long overdue his just induction into the baseball hall of fame.

Bob, Phoenix AZ. (grew up in Ohio in 60's, 70's, 80's)
I always wandered, if your not good enough the first time around to get in, why the 10th, 14th, etc. Nobody puts up anymore numbers after you retire, Also how can Ricky Henderson only get 94% of the vote, i just don't understand.  
Juan Marichel can hit John Roseboro in the head, he dosn't even go to jail ( that's assault people ) futhermore he gets into the HOF. Who did Pete Rose hurt other than himself and his wallet? Oh yes the integrity of the game. What a bunch of arrogant B.S. choose a ball player from his numbers not what he did outside the lines. I have been a DODGER fan for years I really didn't care for Pete as an opponent but as a player he was outstanding.
Enough messing around, it is time to allow Pete Rose, the "Hit King" into the Hall!!!  


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