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MSNBC.com baseball analyst Ted Robinson gives his take on the hits and misses by players, managers, umpires and owners in Major League Baseball.

Robinson has an extensive background in covering the sport. He called the play-by-play on NBC's Major League Baseball Game of the Week telecasts from 1986-89. Additionally, he has been the lead play-by-play announcer for the Minnesota Twins, the television and radio play-by-play voice of the San Francisco Giants, and a member of the New York Mets broadcast team.



Mets and Phils in different baseball worlds

Posted: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:43 PM

The games ended five minutes apart in stadiums within 100 miles of each other. But Philadelphia and New York were in different baseball worlds last night.

After beating the Braves the Phillies left the field to roaring fans waving towels. Players were jumping on each other, clearly reveling in the moment and ready to play another game right away.

In Queens the Mets fell 3-0 to the depleted Cardinals and so they slowly filed out of their dugout, several players and coaches remaining behind, most with looks of disbelief and some slamming the bench in frustration.

Both cities are tough on their teams. But last night New York looked like it was smothering the Mets. The team looked thoroughly joyless in the late stages of its defeat. True, a team that loses -- particularly without hitting -- looks dead. But in a stretch run a veteran-laden team like the Mets is striking in its appearance.

The owner’s son, not the owner, publicly challenged the team this week and that could not have sat well with anyone in uniform. Couple that with the hangover from losing a 5-0 lead to Washington Wednesday and the Mets are in freefall.

In Philadelphia they taste first place after 159 games, just as last year’s Twins. There is spirit and belief. After all, they played August without their best hitter (Chase Utley) and pitcher (Cole Hamels) and survived. Now they play the final weekend for everything. And those seven straight wins in September over the Mets now seem so important to the entire postseason picture.

For the NL East may be winner take all, loser go home. San Diego has shown its own heart, winning three straight road games after the insane Sunday afternoon that cost them Mike Cameron and Milton Bradley. Now the Padres and Rockies (Colorado won its 11th straight last night) seem to have an edge in the chase for the wild card.

In 1998, the Mets lost their last five games and the wild-card lead to Chicago and San Francisco, which won six of its last seven. This finish has that kind of feel for the Mets and they need to show the passion that was evident in Philadelphia and Colorado last night. Their fans need to support not shower boos upon a team that won last year without a race and now must prove it can win a “short series” to avoid a complete failure.

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First comment, beautiful. My condolences to the Mets faithful, for they are getting a taste of what Phillies fans have had to deal with every season (with the exception of 1980, 1993) of the Phillies long existence. To have a team so full of talent and promise choking so miserably when the games count the most is heart-wrenching to us diehard fans. I am grateful to finally be on the victorious side for once.
While for the most part Omar Minaya has been stellar as a General Manager, his short sighted decision to trade Brian Bannister for Ambiorix Burgos last off season now seems to be catching up with the Mets.  Granted, Bannister is 2-3 in September with the Lowly Royals, but he still managed a 12-9 record with a sub 4.00 ERA on one of the worst teams in the AL.  And where is Burgos?  On the DL since June, and elbow replacment surgery has him gone for the season and beyond.  The cynical view is at least this situation keeps Burgos from taking the mound and blowing up ballgames, although that condition is now an epidemic in the New York bullpen.  While Minaya has a penchant for Latin players, and for the most part they have been positive acquisitions, this is one instance where the Arizona native might have been better kept than going after one more 'live arm.
the phillies are winning the east, no doubt about it. they have all the momentum in the world and the mets have no heart and spirit right now. willie randolph and the mets players can say all that 'this is a new season now' stuff all they want, but you can see it in their faces, its like theyve given up already. the phillies will jump out early tonight with a win- hamels is pitching

GO PHILS!
It's a bloody shame to see the collapse within the Mets. I am and always have been a die hard Met fan and have always supported them in their worst and best times. Unfortunately I think that I have to agree that the chances of the Mets comming back is slim, if not non-existant. The Phils have shown heart, spirit and strength. Where as the Mets are having a mental breakdown. With the implosion of the bullpen every game it seems no matter how many runs they score it's meaningless. In the eyes of the hitters you can see that they are blaming themselves. Inturn, it creates a downward spiral in all of them. The other issue is that the Mets fans LOVE to boo their own team. Show some support for the guys that go out there and play for your entertainment everyday. The crowd hawking over the mistakes and costly ones is NOT going to bring their spirits up. When all seems lost in their eyes, this is where us the fans are supposed to stand up for our team and give them that hope they so desperately need. Their fans are their own worst enemy.

Bottom line, support your team no matter how bad they are doing, and if a player is in a slump, do the same. The Phillies fans have supported their team pretty much all season. Now look at them... They are making their comments from the beginning of the season a reality. THEY ARE THE TEAM TO BEAT. That's comming from a true Met fan.
I know unless this is addressed, it will always be mentioned on a yearly basis!!! But, I wonder if the Mets would have been better off playing the likes of Orioles and Royals, rather then that of Yankees and Cleveland in the interleague schedule??? Maybe next season they should swap interleague schedules between the Mets and Phils???
Phils!! Go Phills!
Ted, please take a look at your post from September 6.  Explain how you missed that one so badly, please.  I'm not going to say you jinxed my Mets, but I'll think of you as I wait for the refund for my now-worthless Mets playoff tickets.
We finally win the Eastern Division and get back into the playoffs for the first time in FOURTEEN years. Great!
However, to us old time 'die-hard' suffering Philadelphia Phillies fans the biggest thing about this season is "the choke" of 1964. It's now over, gone, history to long time Philly fans. I had to listen to that crap forever, it seems. Especially during my four years of military service,'65-'69. Now the biggest "choke" in modern Major League Baseball history belongs to the hated NY Mutts! The baseball gods have finally lifted this monkey off our backs!  
Go Phillies!
first of all the Phillies were playing the Washington Nationals and the Mets were playing the Florida Marlins, let's give credit where credit is due to both the Marlins and the Nats, they made for the Mets a maddening final two weeks and provided the Phillies with one of those fairy tale endings all baseball fans live for.  For the Phillies have an exciting October, for the Marlins you've been there recently, and you know the joy.  For the Nats keep up the good work your pitching and clutch hiting are to die for, your future looks bright.  But seeing that my team didn't make the show, I must say "Go Cubbies, this is your year." Ain't baseball grand?!
a loyal but heart sick Mets fan, wait 'til next year!
I still don't understand why this is the 'greatest choke in history' though. My understanding is the '64 Phillies gave up a 6 1/2 game lead with 12 to play, while the '07 Mets gave up a 7 game lead with 17 to play. Somebody's math seems fuzzy, because it still looks to me that the '64 one was the bigger choke job. Am I wrong about something?    
why does no one ask why randolph  kept tom glavin in the first inning for so long when this was a do or die game ? And you say he is a good mamager?


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